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fashion brands that actually post comprehensive garment measurements?

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Finally, a voice of reason! Many of us crave detailed garment measurements – waist, hip, rise, inseam for trousers; bust, waist, shoulder width, and length for blouses – to confidently navigate online shopping. It's frustrating to know how to use a size chart, yet find them consistently lacking crucial information. As explored in "Nothing fancy, just comfy," the pursuit of a truly comfortable and well-fitting garment shouldn’t feel like an impossible quest.

The frustration voiced by /u/wakaflockaquokka regarding the inadequacy of online garment measurements resonates deeply. It’s a surprisingly pervasive issue, particularly for those of us who don’t fit neatly into standard sizing. The current industry practice of providing minimal, often useless, information – garment length alone, model height and weight – feels intentionally obfuscating rather than helpful. Many of our community members are seeking effortless style, as seen in Nothing fancy, just comfy, and that starts with finding clothes that *actually* fit. The simple request for detailed measurements—waist, hip, rise, bust, shoulder width—is not an unreasonable one, and the current lack of it highlights a significant disconnect between brands and their customers. It’s a particularly acute problem for those with unique body shapes, as acknowledged by the author’s reference to the “Venus of Willendorf” and the “lipedema gang,” further illustrating the limitations of relying on model statistics or vague “fit finder” tools. This isn't about demanding bespoke tailoring; it’s about expecting a basic level of transparency and providing the tools for informed purchasing decisions.

The reality is that the current system encourages returns, generating unnecessary waste and logistical headaches for both consumers and retailers. While some brands are attempting to address this with "virtual try-on" technologies, these often fall short and rely on imprecise data. A more straightforward and impactful solution is simply providing detailed, accurate measurements. The impulse to present a curated aesthetic, as demonstrated by the desire to embody a “mystical cowboy wizard pirate” in Fit from the other day, is admirable, but the foundation for any successful outfit is a proper fit. The sheer volume of returns stemming from ill-fitting garments is a significant cost center for many fashion companies, and addressing this issue directly with better measurement data would be a more sustainable and ultimately more profitable strategy. It also speaks to a broader shift in consumer expectations; we’re increasingly demanding authenticity and transparency from the brands we support, and this extends to the fundamental aspect of how clothing is presented and sold. Even a simple weekend fit, as shared in Weekend fit, is undermined by garments that don’t fit well.

The emergence of this conversation—and the call for a “reference list or megathread” of brands that provide comprehensive measurements—signals a potential turning point. It’s a grassroots effort pushing back against the opacity of the fashion industry. For brands that prioritize building genuine connection with their customers, this is an opportunity to differentiate themselves and cultivate loyalty. Providing detailed measurements isn't just about reducing returns; it's about demonstrating respect for the customer’s time, body, and intelligence. This aligns with a broader trend towards mindful consumption and a rejection of wasteful practices. The ability to confidently purchase clothing online, knowing it will fit well, is becoming a non-negotiable expectation, particularly amongst a discerning audience who values quality and self-expression over fleeting trends. The brands that recognize and respond to this shift will be best positioned for long-term success.

Ultimately, the question remains: will this growing consumer demand for detailed garment measurements force a wider industry change? Or will brands continue to prioritize aesthetics and marketing over practicality and transparency? The success of /u/wakaflockaquokka’s initiative to compile a list of compliant brands could be a crucial indicator. It's a testament to the power of collective action and a clear signal that consumers are ready for a more informed and empowering shopping experience—one where finding the perfect fit isn’t an exercise in frustration, but a seamless part of the journey.

I just want some trousers that list the waist, hip, front rise, back rise, thigh width, and inseam -- is that so much to ask for??

And I just want some blouses that list the bust, waist, shoulder width, and shoulder-to-waist length -- is that so much to ask for??

Contrary to popular opinion, I do actually know how to use a size chart, but the size chart never contains enough information for me to actually know if the garment will fit. Listing the overall length of the garment is, functionally, useless. Listing the height and weight of the models is, somehow, even more useless. The "fit finder" tools might be helpful if you fall within the center of the bell curve, but not if you're 5' tall and built like the Venus of Willendorf (lipedema gang, represent).

And idk about youse all, but I've literally never returned anything by mail in my life so now I'm the proud owner of trousers with a front rise long enough to taxi a Boeing 747 and a tank top with straps long enough to fit an entire second set of shoulders. I know I'm a tough size to fit, but at least give me a fighting chance! ಥ⁠╭⁠╮⁠ಥ

So... are *any* brands posting sufficient information for a good fit? If there are, I would love to make a reference list or megathread listing them.

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